b/c i, too, blubbed.
like, really, i thought, “no way, it won’t make me cry”.
thank-you, Kate, for bringing this video to our attention.
this video reminds me that we have a hell of a long fucking way to go b/f my daughter doesn’t have to worry about whether or not she will be taken seriously. whether or not there will be a glass ceiling holding her back from achieving anything and everything she wants and is capable of. it is a reminder that we are Hillary Clinton
b/c she can be president, too.
if you think that women are equal, that the playing field is in fact level, that feminism isn’t relevant anymore, you need to only watch this to realize how very very wrong you are.
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dooooooooooode- just seeing this again made me tear up- again. And I’m at work. Girls can’t cry at work.
Hmmm. I’m not sure about this. Who’s Chris Matthews, anyway? It sounds like most of the commenters are rightwing idiots. Conservative Republicans are certainly quick to attack her.
Olbermann… well, he’s kind of been losing it for a while now.
One of the valid points: “It’s not possible for this country to have a more depraved and wretched press corps.”
As for Clinton herself, I don’t dislike her because she’s a woman, anymore than I favor Obama because he’s black; I just don’t feel she’s the right candidate who would do a good job. I don’t think it’s really so cut-and-dried as supporting Hillary means supporting feminism.
Finally, what of the race argument? Are all black people Barack Obama, and would his becoming president mean that they could be president, too?
I’d be careful of such a rallying cry, especially concerning a politician so obviously in line with the status quo. Just because you’re on her side doesn’t mean she’s on yours.
Who’s Chris Matthews, anyway?
really? tell me you are kidding. you are better off if you aren’t, however.
;)
i do not support HRC in the name of feminism. i am against the misogyny and sexism tossed so callously around her. it seems to be the last acceptable form of hate speech, one that makes no one even bat an eye (except homophobia, but that is a different post). FTR, i strongly support her b/c she is online w/ the issues that matter to me. period. this includes health care, women’s rights/issues (which Obama doesn’t even have specifically on his website, and the rethugs shit all over every day), GLBT issues just to name a few. you don’t have to support HRC to be a feminist, and no one here is making that claim. i am saying that sexism and this blaring example of hate speech is the concern of feminists.
and if Barack Obama opens the door for future POC to become president, then yes, they can also “be Barack Obama” if they want to be, just as i stand behind the sentiment of the meme “I Am Hillary Clinton”. if you followed the link, you would see why i make that statement. it isn’t about Hillary Clinton the politician here, it is about a strong, capable woman breaking ceilings that need to be smashed, and how when the MSM carelessly or deliberately throw hateful sentiments at her, or use ugly language to “put her in her place”, it is a cut to all women everywhere. it is a reminder to us, that no matter what we achieve or how much we do someone will always ready to call us a bitch and tell us to iron their shirt.
they are mutually exclusive, my support of Clinton as a politician, and my support of her as a woman to be admired for all she has accomplished. if there was a front running Native American i wouldn’t necessarily throw myself to her or his favor, not w/o the policy to earn it. i can not speak to racism, since even though i am Native American, i am “passably white” to people who don’t know me. i have privilege (that i don’t deserve), so except on the reservation back home where appearing white was a problem to some people there, i can’t possibly relate or understand how the racism hurts POC. all i can do is own my privilege. i can, however, speak volumes to sexism and misogyny, twice so when speaking of Native American women and the horrors that affect us (i only have one or two posts here about that), more so for those on reservations.
for what i need from a candidate, and from what i see of Clinton, she is in fact, on my side.
well i’m not sure i’m bright enough to comment on this but what the heck.
The video full of sexist, misogynist themes that reinforce to most men “Hey don’t let no woman tells ya what to do”.
I think it is horrible and condemn it completely.
That being said (and no this is not a BUT….. Moment) 3 things thoughts come to by very undeveloped mind.
If HRC were ahead in states won, popular votes and pledged delegates would we be seeing this more through a race lens I.E. would these idiots be going after my man Barry X and the sexist remarks would not be on the tee vee?
My answer? No we would see both the casting of HRC as a ball busting ***** and even more racists talk about Barry X and how he should get
My second thought is it that those who go first never have it the easiest and may fail at the quest but never fail to inspire millions in that quest.
Once again this is not an excuse and the next woman who has a shot at POTUS will endure similar shit but maybe a little less because so many people are calling bullshit on what HRC is going through.
And why it is tough and unfair now it weakens the wall a little bit for those who follow.
And thirdly and the only concrete thing I can say is I will vote for HRC or Barry X whoever the nominee is and however they get it.
you are absolutely bright enough, pido! well put.
i am not sure how it would change if she were ahead, but that gives me something to think about.
but i fully agree w/ you, if she doesn’t do well, though i admittedly hope she will (whatever that’s worth), i think that the next woman to come along will have a hand up on all the shit.
and i totally agree…it is a big game of “hey, don’t let no woman tells ya what to do!”. and that is why w/ the *blub*
thanks pido!
I’ve heard vaguely of Chris Matthews, but I don’t really know much about him. He’s in the Hannity/Limbaugh/Carlson camp; they’re pretty much all asshats. Olbermann’s getting there, too.
“it is a reminder to us, that no matter what we achieve or how much we do someone will always ready to call us a bitch and tell us to iron their shirt.”
The problem is that’s not specific to women. No matter how much I achieve or do, someone’s still always ready to attack me, call me arrogant or somesuch.
“The video full of sexist, misogynist themes that reinforce to most men “Hey don’t let no woman tells ya what to do”.”
The issue I have is that those sexist, misogynist themes were all spewed by asshats.
Also, this “most men” thing. I think rhetoric gets into trouble anytime the word “most” occurs; it nearly always disintegrates into generalization. There’s nothing anyone can say about ‘most men’ without falling into the same trap as saying ‘most women’ or ‘most Arabs’ or ‘most Christians’ or etc.
“it is about a strong, capable woman”
Which is, I contend, part of the problem, because it brings gender into play. I’d be less distrustful if it were “about a strong, capable candidate,” but it’s not. It needs to be about whether she’s a good candidate, not whether her election will break any ceilings.
And, unfortunately, at this juncture, it simply doesn’t seem to be.
What I come down to is that I’ve never heard anyone call Obama a strong, capable black man, and I read that as a huge difference between why the two candidates’ supporters support each. Clinton’s supporters seem to think that she’s a strong, capable woman; Obama’s seem to believe he’s a strong, capable candidate, which is an important difference because it means Clinton is trying to break through some ceiling while Obama, on the other hand, has simply rendered it moot by completely transcending it.
And that’s how you end stereotypes. Not by fighting them, or proving them wrong, but rather by transcending them and rendering them moot.
it’s not specific to women, but it’s sharply slanted. no one is telling you that you can’t be or do whatever you want to achieve based solely on your sex. no one is looking at you and saying “iron my shirt”. who is calling you a ball busting bitch for exerting yourself and standing up for yourself one day, and then jumping up and down screaming that you can’t be trusted if you can’t keep your marriage in order the next? i want to know. who has said that you are only what you are b/c you married someone important, or that people felt sorry for you b/c your wife cheated on you (it’s an example, i don’t know or care if you are married).
one example of how it is sharply slanted that rings up is that when Clinton had a moment where her voice cracked, it was all anyone w/ a time slot talked about for days, but when Mitt Romney cried in Michigan, no one said a fucking word. it was mentioned in passing, and everyone was touched that he had emotions. another one is how everyone calls her “Hillary”, as if she was your best friend on your couch, and not a United Fucking States Senator. How often have you heard the MSM or anyone call the other candidates “John” or “Barack” or “Mike” or “Ron”? no, we give them the respect of Senator or Mister [last name], but Clinton is like the kid down the street’s mom…first names are fine!
the problem you are having is that you have privilege, whether you own it or not. being a man is privilege, and that doesn’t make you bad, but it gives you the luxury of being able to dismiss the misogyny that we, as women, are not able to. it is in everything that we do. i am not going to argue examples w/ you, and i sure as hell am not going to entertain “what about the menz” or “it happens to me too!” arguments here, on my blog. you aren’t being outwardly offensive, and i am not trying to drive you off, but as a woman, i hear these arguments all the time, and frankly, i am tired of refuting the same thing again and again. it is NOT an even playing field, and the same shit doesn’t happen to men based solely on their gender, certainly not at the levels it does for women.
and, again, the problem w/ the misogyny has nothing to do w/ her politics. she could be the most anti choice, right wing, religious wing nut out there, and i would still argue that you can not say “bitch, make me a sandwich”, or say “life’s a bitch, don’t elect one”. i feel the same way when people make transvestite jokes about Ann Coulture…everytime she opens her mouth i want to rip my hair out, but that doesn’t give anyone the right to judge her appearance, or try to use the word “trans” as an insult. it doesn’t fly w/ me. the fact that they are from right wing nuts doesn’t make it less wrong.
i can say Clinton is a strong capable woman, who happens to be the best candidate, IMHO. like i said before, the two are mutually exclusive. i could hate her politics, but at the end of the day, i am sick and tired of the period jokes, or the media circus about her shedding a few tears (FTR, i do not think it was a coincidence that they called that segment “The Crying Game”, not w/ all the “Hillary is a dyke” jokes i have heard.) I am not sure i believe you that no one is saying Obama is a strong capable black man. he is a great, capable, charismatic man, and apart from that, he is a decent candidate. i would probably support him if he is the dems nom. gender isn’t a big deal for me politically, i am not in the “hey, they look like me, me votey!” camp. policies are. but i am going to throw my bullshit card on the table when misogyny comes into play. it has been, and always will be, a way to keep women from achieving too much. it is incredibly condescending to just say “you shouldn’t let it bother you” or “rise above it”, b/c i don’t have that privilege. but i sure as fuck will fight to try to make sure that my daughter doesn’t have to be hurt by it nearly as much.
come here and comment all you want, i welcome dissenting views, but DO NOT presume that you know what i should and should not be offended by, and certainly do not come to my blog and tell me that i shouldn’t pay any attention to the abuse Clinton takes b/c she is a woman, or that the hatred thrown at her isn’t b/c of her gender.
Ah, yes, the “privilege.” Unfortunately, as a card-carrying member of the White Boy Club, I’m legally obligated to refrain from commenting any longer, on punishment of giving up my platinum key to the Exclusionary Room, which is where we all go to coordinate our oppressive strategies, and I can’t very well miss that.
very cute.
whiny MRA rhetoric won’t be missed.
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Thank you for taking the time to create a blog post on the video “Mad as Hell/Bitch”.
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